Comments on: Towards a New Kind of Nonprofit Website, Part II

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By: righini

righini — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:32:59 +0000

Ah, also for there are now some nice wordpress theme frameworks that enable this kind of need (some of them are also non-tech user friendly)

http://themeshaper.com/thematic/
http://themehybrid.com/themes/hybrid
http://carringtontheme.com/

By: righini

righini — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:32:32 +0000

Ah, also for there are now some nice wordpress theme frameworks that enables this kind of need (some of them are also non-tech user friendly)

http://themeshaper.com/thematic/
http://themehybrid.com/themes/hybrid
http://carringtontheme.com/

By: righini

righini — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:30:02 +0000

hello Allan, i got a little deeper in 4)

it's possible to use a plugin called "custom field template" that gives the ability to store some kind of metadata, retrivable via wordpress functions (get_post_meta). You can manually build some template pages that extract only the meta-data that fit the content type request. I'm stuck on wordpress admin manipulation in order to have different sets of "custom fields" to complete the need

please let me know if you got something on this subject

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By: Tidbits

Tidbits — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:06:15 +0000

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By: Allan Benamer

Allan Benamer — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:24:18 +0000

Hey righini, thanks for your reply. I'm just going to address on where we differ. Remember, I came into Drupal as a past Joomla and Wordpress user so I'm not totally always in lockstep with what Drupalistas tend to say about Drupal. That said, Wordpress could learn a LOT from Drupal (and vice versa).

1. I don't think you quite understand the difference between a multi-blogger community and a blog with multiple users. Wordpress is only good for the latter. Wordpress MU is good for the former.

2. Automated image galleries is not the same as context-sensitive resizing of images. Both Drupal and Wordpress have automated image galleries. However, only Drupal has context-sensitive resizing. You probably could do it in Wordpress if you took the time to code but it still wouldn't be integrated in a SQL query builder like it can be done in Drupal. Drupal is a couple of intuitive leaps ahead of Wordpress on this issue.

3. I strongly urge you to do an install of Drupal 6 and play around with CCK and Views. It will blow your mind.

4. Hmm I can't really evaluate this plugin as much of the homepage for it is in Japanese. However, the "some coding is required" issue is a problem for many nonprofits. They don't have custom coding resources.

6. Custom excerpts in Wordpress are nice but that assumes users are going to write them in. Drupal does not. You don't have to ask bloggers to write a custom excerpt. Drupal (most of the time) just figures it out.

8. I doubt you could do a magazine layout in the context of a multi-user blogging community with Wordpress alone. You would need Wordpress MU and then you'd have to check if your custom plugins work properly with WPMU. That's a big issue. If you ever do a migration from WP to WPMU — come back here and tell how many of your plugins survived the migration.

By: Allan Benamer

Allan Benamer — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:07:42 +0000

Actually, I disagree on this one and I have installed and deployed emfield. Right out of the box, Drupal doesn't support unassisted embedding of video and audio. In fact, I had to install emfield because many of APAP's bloggers had problems with embeds in Drupal. It's definitely not as easy as Wordpress to use. It's a sore point with me that Drupalistas sometimes have a tin ear when it comes to usability issues and this is one of them.