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		<title>By: London Hotel</title>
		<link>http://www.nonprofittechblog.org/towards-a-new-kind-of-nonprofit-website-part-ii/comment-page-1#comment-100804</link>
		<dc:creator>London Hotel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 09:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like very much your way of presentation.I got more useful information on this blog.All your giving tips are so much useful.Thanks to sharing the useful information&#8230;.Keep posting such great post. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like very much your way of presentation.I got more useful information on this blog.All your giving tips are so much useful.Thanks to sharing the useful information&hellip;.Keep posting such great post.</p>
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		<title>By: righini</title>
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		<dc:creator>righini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, also for 8) there are now some nice wordpress theme frameworks that enable this kind of need (some of them are also non-tech user friendly)   
  
&lt;a href=&quot;http://themeshaper.com/thematic/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://themeshaper.com/thematic/&lt;/a&gt;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://themeshaper.com/thematic/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  
&lt;a href=&quot;http://themehybrid.com/themes/hybrid&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://themehybrid.com/themes/hybrid&lt;/a&gt;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://themehybrid.com/themes/hybrid&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  
&lt;a href=&quot;http://carringtontheme.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://carringtontheme.com/&lt;/a&gt;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://carringtontheme.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, also for <img src='http://www.nonprofittechblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> there are now some nice wordpress theme frameworks that enable this kind of need (some of them are also non-tech user friendly)   </p>
<p><a href="http://themeshaper.com/thematic/" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://themeshaper.com/thematic/</a>&#8221; target=&#8221;_blank&#8221;></a><a href="http://themeshaper.com/thematic/" rel="nofollow">http://themeshaper.com/thematic/</a><br />
<a href="http://themehybrid.com/themes/hybrid" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://themehybrid.com/themes/hybrid</a>&#8221; target=&#8221;_blank&#8221;></a><a href="http://themehybrid.com/themes/hybrid" rel="nofollow">http://themehybrid.com/themes/hybrid</a><br />
<a href="http://carringtontheme.com/" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://carringtontheme.com/</a>&#8221; target=&#8221;_blank&#8221;></a><a href="http://carringtontheme.com/" rel="nofollow">http://carringtontheme.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: righini</title>
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		<dc:creator>righini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, also for 8) there are now some nice wordpress theme frameworks that enables this kind of need (some of them are also non-tech user friendly)  
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://themeshaper.com/thematic/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://themeshaper.com/thematic/&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://themehybrid.com/themes/hybrid&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://themehybrid.com/themes/hybrid&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://carringtontheme.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://carringtontheme.com/&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, also for <img src='http://www.nonprofittechblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> there are now some nice wordpress theme frameworks that enables this kind of need (some of them are also non-tech user friendly)  </p>
<p><a href="http://themeshaper.com/thematic/" target="_blank">http://themeshaper.com/thematic/</a><br />
<a href="http://themehybrid.com/themes/hybrid" target="_blank">http://themehybrid.com/themes/hybrid</a><br />
<a href="http://carringtontheme.com/" target="_blank">http://carringtontheme.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: righini</title>
		<link>http://www.nonprofittechblog.org/towards-a-new-kind-of-nonprofit-website-part-ii/comment-page-1#comment-100585</link>
		<dc:creator>righini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello Allan, i got a little deeper in 4)  
 
it&#039;s possible to use a plugin called &quot;custom field template&quot; that gives the ability to store some kind of metadata, retrivable via wordpress functions (get_post_meta). You can manually build some template pages that extract only the meta-data that fit the content type request. I&#039;m stuck on wordpress admin manipulation in order to have different sets of &quot;custom fields&quot; to complete the need :)  
 
please let me know if you got something on this subject :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello Allan, i got a little deeper in 4)  </p>
<p>it&#039;s possible to use a plugin called &quot;custom field template&quot; that gives the ability to store some kind of metadata, retrivable via wordpress functions (get_post_meta). You can manually build some template pages that extract only the meta-data that fit the content type request. I&#039;m stuck on wordpress admin manipulation in order to have different sets of &quot;custom fields&quot; to complete the need <img src='http://www.nonprofittechblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>please let me know if you got something on this subject <img src='http://www.nonprofittechblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Feedstech</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feedstech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great post!! thank!!:D </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great post!! thank!!:D</p>
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		<title>By: Tidbits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tidbits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Allan Benamer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan Benamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey righini, thanks for your reply. I&#039;m just going to address on where we differ. Remember, I came into Drupal as a past Joomla and Wordpress user so I&#039;m not totally always in lockstep with what Drupalistas tend to say about Drupal. That said, Wordpress could learn a LOT from Drupal (and vice versa). 
 
1. I don&#039;t think you quite understand the difference between a multi-blogger community and a blog with multiple users. Wordpress is only good for the latter. Wordpress MU is good for the former.  
 
2.  Automated image galleries is not the same as context-sensitive resizing of images. Both Drupal and Wordpress have automated image galleries. However, only Drupal has context-sensitive resizing. You probably could do it in Wordpress if you took the time to code but it still wouldn&#039;t be integrated in a SQL query builder like it can be done in Drupal. Drupal is a couple of intuitive leaps ahead of Wordpress on this issue. 
 
3. I strongly urge you to do an install of Drupal 6 and play around with CCK and Views. It will blow your mind. 
 
4. Hmm I can&#039;t really evaluate this plugin as much of the homepage for it is in Japanese. However, the &quot;some coding is required&quot; issue is a problem for many nonprofits. They don&#039;t have custom coding resources. 
 
6. Custom excerpts in Wordpress are nice but that assumes users are going to write them in. Drupal does not. You don&#039;t have to ask bloggers to write a custom excerpt. Drupal (most of the time) just figures it out. 
 
8. I doubt you could do a magazine layout in the context of a multi-user blogging community with Wordpress alone. You would need Wordpress MU and then you&#039;d have to check if your custom plugins work properly with WPMU. That&#039;s a big issue. If you ever do a migration from WP to WPMU -- come back here and tell how many of  your plugins survived the migration. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey righini, thanks for your reply. I&#039;m just going to address on where we differ. Remember, I came into Drupal as a past Joomla and WordPress user so I&#039;m not totally always in lockstep with what Drupalistas tend to say about Drupal. That said, WordPress could learn a LOT from Drupal (and vice versa). </p>
<p>1. I don&#039;t think you quite understand the difference between a multi-blogger community and a blog with multiple users. WordPress is only good for the latter. WordPress MU is good for the former.  </p>
<p>2.  Automated image galleries is not the same as context-sensitive resizing of images. Both Drupal and WordPress have automated image galleries. However, only Drupal has context-sensitive resizing. You probably could do it in WordPress if you took the time to code but it still wouldn&#039;t be integrated in a SQL query builder like it can be done in Drupal. Drupal is a couple of intuitive leaps ahead of WordPress on this issue. </p>
<p>3. I strongly urge you to do an install of Drupal 6 and play around with CCK and Views. It will blow your mind. </p>
<p>4. Hmm I can&#039;t really evaluate this plugin as much of the homepage for it is in Japanese. However, the &quot;some coding is required&quot; issue is a problem for many nonprofits. They don&#039;t have custom coding resources. </p>
<p>6. Custom excerpts in WordPress are nice but that assumes users are going to write them in. Drupal does not. You don&#039;t have to ask bloggers to write a custom excerpt. Drupal (most of the time) just figures it out. </p>
<p>8. I doubt you could do a magazine layout in the context of a multi-user blogging community with WordPress alone. You would need WordPress MU and then you&#039;d have to check if your custom plugins work properly with WPMU. That&#039;s a big issue. If you ever do a migration from WP to WPMU &#8212; come back here and tell how many of  your plugins survived the migration.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Benamer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan Benamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I disagree on this one and I have installed and deployed emfield. Right out of the box, Drupal doesn&#039;t support unassisted embedding of video and audio. In fact, I had to install emfield because many of APAP&#039;s bloggers had problems with embeds in Drupal. It&#039;s definitely not as easy as Wordpress to use. It&#039;s a sore point with me that Drupalistas sometimes have a tin ear when it comes to usability issues and this is one of them.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I disagree on this one and I have installed and deployed emfield. Right out of the box, Drupal doesn&#039;t support unassisted embedding of video and audio. In fact, I had to install emfield because many of APAP&#039;s bloggers had problems with embeds in Drupal. It&#039;s definitely not as easy as WordPress to use. It&#039;s a sore point with me that Drupalistas sometimes have a tin ear when it comes to usability issues and this is one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: righini</title>
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		<dc:creator>righini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo. sorry for my late reply.  
I checked all your points and I think you are referring to a deeper level of software usage.  
 
please forgive my simpleness, i&#039;ll try to reply anyway: 
 
1: still don&#039;t get it. Wordpress has users with different privileges. you don&#039;t need to get to MU for that feat. If you need a multiple blog software that&#039;s MU.  
 
2: from 2.6 you can insert an automated image gallery. That&#039;s not the state of the art, but it&#039;s an alternative to manual thumb insertion. 
 
3: sorry for me even writing custom php is out of question. I simply install plugins and themes... (i&#039;m not that cool) 
 
4: I get it: you can do it using &quot;custom fields template plugin&quot; and building page templates. Then when you&#039;ll create a new page you can choose the template page that you need. (some coding is required here, i asked a friend) 
 
5: we agree 
 
6: this is true in most cases. anyway you can set up custom excerpts display and with a minimum of editing formatting you&#039;ll get to nice results (example: image must be at the beginning of the post it&#039;s enough to build custom homepage views for the posts) 
 
7: :) 
 
8: understand. agree. i&#039;m doing what you describe with newsletter plugin, comments plugin, custom user management plugins and so on. (but never wrote a line of code, i think that&#039;s a plus) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo. sorry for my late reply.<br />
I checked all your points and I think you are referring to a deeper level of software usage.  </p>
<p>please forgive my simpleness, i&#039;ll try to reply anyway: </p>
<p>1: still don&#039;t get it. WordPress has users with different privileges. you don&#039;t need to get to MU for that feat. If you need a multiple blog software that&#039;s MU.  </p>
<p>2: from 2.6 you can insert an automated image gallery. That&#039;s not the state of the art, but it&#039;s an alternative to manual thumb insertion. </p>
<p>3: sorry for me even writing custom php is out of question. I simply install plugins and themes&#8230; (i&#039;m not that cool) </p>
<p>4: I get it: you can do it using &quot;custom fields template plugin&quot; and building page templates. Then when you&#039;ll create a new page you can choose the template page that you need. (some coding is required here, i asked a friend) </p>
<p>5: we agree </p>
<p>6: this is true in most cases. anyway you can set up custom excerpts display and with a minimum of editing formatting you&#039;ll get to nice results (example: image must be at the beginning of the post it&#039;s enough to build custom homepage views for the posts) </p>
<p>7: <img src='http://www.nonprofittechblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>8: understand. agree. i&#039;m doing what you describe with newsletter plugin, comments plugin, custom user management plugins and so on. (but never wrote a line of code, i think that&#039;s a plus)</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Couch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Couch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drupal should be a &#039;yes&#039; for &quot;Unassisted embedding of video and audio&quot; 
 
Embedded media field does this pretty easily:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://drupal.org/project/emfield&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://drupal.org/project/emfield&lt;/a&gt; 
 
Just put in the url of a video or audio hosted on dozens of service providers (ie youtube, hulu and the like). 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drupal should be a &#039;yes&#039; for &quot;Unassisted embedding of video and audio&quot; </p>
<p>Embedded media field does this pretty easily:  <a href="http://drupal.org/project/emfield" target="_blank">http://drupal.org/project/emfield</a> </p>
<p>Just put in the url of a video or audio hosted on dozens of service providers (ie youtube, hulu and the like).</p>
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