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	<title>Comments on: N-TEN NTC &#8211; Send in the nerds!</title>
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		<title>By: abenamer</title>
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		<dc:creator>abenamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh the things I&#039;ll do for a hot breakfast... Of course, this isn&#039;t an us vs. them issue. The NTC works for the most part. It&#039;s just that I come from the social service sector and tend to have a client-focused approach. In this case, it&#039;s the IT Directors and tech workers that are the clients and if anything, I want something less vendor-focused and more professionally oriented, perhaps more like a Bar Association meeting. It&#039;s a chance to do something neat and different. And yes, I&#039;ll moderate some of those sessions, particularly IT ethics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh the things I&#8217;ll do for a hot breakfast&#8230; Of course, this isn&#8217;t an us vs. them issue. The NTC works for the most part. It&#8217;s just that I come from the social service sector and tend to have a client-focused approach. In this case, it&#8217;s the IT Directors and tech workers that are the clients and if anything, I want something less vendor-focused and more professionally oriented, perhaps more like a Bar Association meeting. It&#8217;s a chance to do something neat and different. And yes, I&#8217;ll moderate some of those sessions, particularly IT ethics.</p>
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		<title>By: katrin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hooray, Allan.

I was waiting for your post :-) And no worries - we want to hear from you all.  N-TEN is this community and if you do not have a voice and a network of peers to turn to, exchange information with, and learn something, we should not be around...it is, after all, the &#039;conversation, stupid&#039; (as my friend David Weinberger is known to have said).

So, thanks -- and for all readers here wondering, here is Allan&#039;s pic:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/94299285@N00/172737512/in/set-72157594165983140/

I appreciate the view, for sure; it&#039;s a criticism N-TEN has heard in the past, I believe.  However, I do not believe that this needs to be an us versus them approach. I think you say as much, referencing an &#039;ecology&#039; and also smaller vendors and/or service providers  like Sinu or Democracy in Action, etc - some of which are nonprofits themselves.  There are vendors of all ilks  - great, good, not so good, large, and a whole lot of small ones.  Also, I&#039;ll look up the exact numbers for the NTC in Seattle but we all, working for nonprofits in various ITC capacities, VASTLY outnumbered vendors - even if you count consultants in that mix. 

That said, I appreciate the sentiment for &#039;spaces&#039; for affinity communities to meet and exchange views frankly and freely.  Holly and I are rethinking the way in which the NTC is structured so that much more of that can happen -- formally and informally.  

I love ideas that you and others might have to that end - thinks that you have seen other places, or like to see at the next NTC. In addition to session ideas, we have heard a few already - poster sessions, peer reviews, round tables, affinity group meet-ups, focused dine-arounds, you name it -- keep them coming!  We have an entire large hotel to fill with lots of spaces for these to happen and I am very much looking forward to making the next NTC as lively and as interesting as possible.

I also very much love some of your session ideas - and will definitely recruit you to run at least one of them...  

And finally, we&#039;ll take the hot breakfast under advisement (though we&#039;ll need a sponsor for that to not bust the budget {grin})...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hooray, Allan.</p>
<p>I was waiting for your post <img src='http://www.nonprofittechblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  And no worries &#8211; we want to hear from you all.  N-TEN is this community and if you do not have a voice and a network of peers to turn to, exchange information with, and learn something, we should not be around&#8230;it is, after all, the &#8216;conversation, stupid&#8217; (as my friend David Weinberger is known to have said).</p>
<p>So, thanks &#8212; and for all readers here wondering, here is Allan&#8217;s pic:<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/94299285@N00/172737512/in/set-72157594165983140/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/94299285@N00/172737512/in/set-72157594165983140/</a></p>
<p>I appreciate the view, for sure; it&#8217;s a criticism N-TEN has heard in the past, I believe.  However, I do not believe that this needs to be an us versus them approach. I think you say as much, referencing an &#8216;ecology&#8217; and also smaller vendors and/or service providers  like Sinu or Democracy in Action, etc &#8211; some of which are nonprofits themselves.  There are vendors of all ilks  &#8211; great, good, not so good, large, and a whole lot of small ones.  Also, I&#8217;ll look up the exact numbers for the NTC in Seattle but we all, working for nonprofits in various ITC capacities, VASTLY outnumbered vendors &#8211; even if you count consultants in that mix. </p>
<p>That said, I appreciate the sentiment for &#8217;spaces&#8217; for affinity communities to meet and exchange views frankly and freely.  Holly and I are rethinking the way in which the NTC is structured so that much more of that can happen &#8212; formally and informally.  </p>
<p>I love ideas that you and others might have to that end &#8211; thinks that you have seen other places, or like to see at the next NTC. In addition to session ideas, we have heard a few already &#8211; poster sessions, peer reviews, round tables, affinity group meet-ups, focused dine-arounds, you name it &#8212; keep them coming!  We have an entire large hotel to fill with lots of spaces for these to happen and I am very much looking forward to making the next NTC as lively and as interesting as possible.</p>
<p>I also very much love some of your session ideas &#8211; and will definitely recruit you to run at least one of them&#8230;  </p>
<p>And finally, we&#8217;ll take the hot breakfast under advisement (though we&#8217;ll need a sponsor for that to not bust the budget {grin})&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: citybadger</title>
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		<dc:creator>citybadger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sessions on leasing and ethics are really good ideas.  I&#039;d actually want to attend those.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sessions on leasing and ethics are really good ideas.  I&#8217;d actually want to attend those.</p>
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		<title>By: deborah909</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rock on, Allan!

Let&#039;s keep thinking of ways to make the Nonprofit Technology Conference more helpful to small nonprofit organizations.

Warm regards from Deborah

Deborah Elizabeth Finn
Cyber-Yenta
http://public.xdi.org/=Deborah.Elizabeth.Finn
http://www.cyber-yenta.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rock on, Allan!</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s keep thinking of ways to make the Nonprofit Technology Conference more helpful to small nonprofit organizations.</p>
<p>Warm regards from Deborah</p>
<p>Deborah Elizabeth Finn<br />
Cyber-Yenta<br />
<a href="http://public.xdi.org/=Deborah.Elizabeth.Finn" rel="nofollow">http://public.xdi.org/=Deborah.Elizabeth.Finn</a><br />
<a href="http://www.cyber-yenta.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.cyber-yenta.org</a></p>
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